[cAos-devel] My recent spate of commits

[Tim Leger]

Hi Greg,
> On Feb 14, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Tim Leger wrote:
>
>   
>> Hey All,
>>
>>     Same here, I started with cAos 2 (used it to setup a 96 node
>> cluster) end of last year.  Due to some newer hardware (chipset) that
>> showed up which cAos 2 wasn't able to handle,
>>     
>
> Michael did update the Caos2 installer fairly recently. He can give  
> more specific details, but have you tested it recently?
>   
Well, the 2.2b version is the one I was trying to use with the newer 
hardware, specifically a motherboard with a Nforce 430 MCP chipset, 
which controls a lot of key components on the motherboard like the SATA 
ports.  Needless to say, it's impossible to install an OS on such a 
system especially if the OS can't see the hard drives!  I was 
temporarily able to get around this by borrowing a controller card, but 
even with that out of the way, nothing else on the motherboard like the 
ethernet port would work with version 2.2b.  I even tried upgrading the 
kernel to a much newer one, and though the system would then start to 
boot from the onboard SATA port, it ran into some other issues that 
Michael told me were related to the cinch installer.  Granted version 
2.2b was released at the end of October last year, but the kernel in the 
release is almost a year old.  That said, the 430 MCP chipset has been 
on the market for more than a year.  That's why I was so surprised the 
the cAos 3 (beta 3) was able to detect and use everything on the 
motherboard without any issues first time.
>   
>> I tried out cAos 3 and was
>> impressed with it's installation and bootup speed.  Speaking of which
>> and out of curiosity, is there a newer installation/cinch version of
>> cAos 2 planned for the foreseeable future or is everything going to  
>> cAos
>> 3?
>>     
>
> Test out the latest version, and let us know if a newer build is  
> still necessary.
>
>   
I have not seen a newer version for cAos 2 than 2.2b on any of the 
mirror websites.  Is there another version being hosted somewhere else?
>> The lack of some libraries with cAos 3 has really slowed me down in
>> setting things up the way I need them on this new hardware.
>>     
>
> Agreed. I would like to bring in a bunch more packages into the Caos  
> Ports system. We just need some contributions here.
>   
I'll try to make contributions to this as I get time.  Might be a good 
idea to start with a tutorial on the wiki as to how to create ports for 
the ports system.  So far my experience with the ports subsystem is that 
they don't always work due to downloading from sites that sometimes 
shift or are unavailable.  Maybe you could modify the ports system to 
use a centralized location for downloads to avoid this and related 
issues, just an idea.  For me personally, a package called systemimager 
is a must.  Under cAos 2.2b I was able to just use the RPM's available 
for it and everything worked fine.  Under cAos 3 there was a laundry 
list of dependencies I had to deal with first (and of coarse those 
dependencies also had dependencies of their own).  The last stable 
release of systemimager won't build under cAos 3 but a newer "unstable" 
version built just fine.  However, I ran into some problems when trying 
to use the executables it built.  I'll have to get you a report on this 
(what I tried and what went wrong), maybe you can figure it out or 
possibly even work in conjunction with the systemimager folk, just my 2 
cents.
>> I've been
>> documenting my progress with cAos 3 and contributing to the wiki with
>> items I feel confident with like swatch and iptables.  Currently, I'm
>> very busy with adjunct teaching and my own research, but hopefully  
>> I'll
>> be able to contribute much more to the wiki and cAos development  
>> effort
>> once the end of the quarter gets here the middle of next month.
>>     
>
> Excellent! :)
>
>   
>> I've
>> been using and administering Linux setups for the past 5+ years, but
>> finding the time to track down the plethora of dependencies some
>> applications take can be hard to do :) .
>>     
>
> Agreed. If you post a list of the packages and/or Caos Ports that you  
> wish to have imported we can work on them in parallel. Can you find a  
> nice home for this on the wiki and startup a list?
>   
I'll start a list on the wiki this weekend (soonest time I have 
available for it).  I've got instructions on how to install a few other 
packages to put up on the wiki as well.
> Thanks!
> Greg
>
>   
>> Later, Tim Leger
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Grad. Research Assistant
>> Dept. of Mechanical & Materials Engineering
>> Wright State University
>> Dayton, OH
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have missed my windows p2p app that got shut down, now amule sounds
>>> interesting especially the daemon feature.
>>>
>>> Im new to caos and im blown away with caos3, its simple  
>>> installation and
>>> 100% reliability.
>>>
>>> Im just above newbie level and not a programmer but im happy to  
>>> test and
>>> feedback and will add more to the wiki when I can.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -------Original Message-------
>>>
>>> From: Martyn
>>> Date: 14/02/2007 04:42:40
>>> To: cAos-devel
>>> Subject: [cAos-devel] My recent spate of commits
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Noone ever seems to be about on irc when I am, so I thought I'd  
>>> strike
>>> Up some discussion here instead...
>>>
>>> A friend of mine works as a .net programmer, and has decided to
>>> Convert his home network (1 server for ed2k:// type stuff and 1  
>>> laptop)
>>> To Linux! (m$ must be getting bad if he's converting :-) )
>>>
>>> Of course I've suggested cAos and he's very interested, and I may be
>>> Able to twist his arm on some packaging too, but so far in his
>>> Installation I've been picking up bits (like foomatic and his printer
>>> Driver) that he needs.
>>>
>>> As an emule user he's got a big interest in aMule, so, the current  
>>> rev
>>> Of aMule requiring libiconv, I've committed that so I can update our
>>> AMule package that's nearly 2 years old...
>>>
>>> The main bonus of having him on cAos will be his asking me for  
>>> desktop
>>> Packages, where my work load is on the server packages.
>>>
>>> I'm still concerned about our lack of a cAos-3 desktop edition and  
>>> our
>>> Upgrade paths, can we get some discussion going here on that? I  
>>> may be
>>> Able to package some things, others like Xorg are out of my league.
>>>
>>> Okay, I've waffled enough for now, let's have someone else waffle :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>       
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